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"Stand Your Ground" Passes House Despite Debate And Protests

A measure that’s called Ohio’s version of “stand your groundâ€? has passed the Ohio House, after two hours of passionate arguments and a mid-debate protest. The bill would eliminate the so-called “duty to retreatâ€? requirement, which says a person who feels threatened must attempt to escape before using deadly force. And it expands the situations in which weapons can be used beyond homes and cars as in the current law, to in any places where that person is allowed to be, such as streets and stores. Its sponsor is Republican Terry Johnson, who took issue with the way some Democrats have characterized the bill.

There’s no kill at will here. This is not an expansion of castle doctrine.

Johnson said the Ohio bill would be different than the one in Florida, which has been singled out by critics after the trial of George Zimmerman, who was acquitted in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin. But critics weren’t buying that. Fred Strahorn is a Democrat from Dayton.

This passes...there will be consequences. You pass this, somebody’s going to die because of this. Absolutely.

"It’s already happened. George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin are not an isolated case.â€? Democrat Alicia Reece from Cincinnati said she supports the right to bear arms, but also said she was representing 10-thousand people who signed a petition to stop the bill. “We know what the provision in House Bill 203 – the “stand your ground/ kill at willâ€? provision, we’ve already seen what it does when it goes wrong. We’ve already seen when we allow citizens to become judge, juror and executioner," Reece said. But sponsor Terry Johnson said existing Ohio law prevents such a scenario.

Those who say that this change will encourage people to take up vigilantism are flat-out wrong.

"Despite this change," Johnson continued, "Ohio will still be one of the hardest states in the union to prove self-defense in a court of law. That’s because our burden of proof for demonstrating self-defense is so much higher than in most states.â€? However, Democrats were still unconvinced. Bob Hagan of Youngstown said he had voted for the creation of concealed-carry in Ohio, but said this bill will bring needless violence. “Come to Youngstown and Cleveland and Cincinnati. Come out of the suburbs, folks, and see what the heck is going on. And you will see exactly what is going on – the fear that we have in passing legislation that does absolutely nothing but get the people that supported this so excited that supported you, like the NRA.â€? But Republican Matt Lynch said the Democrats were using what he called “scaremongering and radical accusationsâ€? in describing the bill, which he said includes mostly common sense reforms along with a needed change in the duty to retreat provision. “Can you imagine, Mr. Speaker, if anyone ever proposed that in order to exercise your First Amendment rights, or that you need training, or that somehow the government would have to approve of what you’re going to do in advance? We’d never stand for that. We’d never stand for that when it comes to our right to worship, either. Ah, but when it comes to gun rights, somehow it’s okay.â€? The debate was interrupted at one point by protesters who oppose the bill, as captured by reporter Mark Kovac for his Ohio Capital Blog site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS32BVSPKNo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUagNNeUgJmb-Zca97t7Ro2w They unfurled a banner that read “Vote No on Stand Your Groundâ€?, which was pulled up quickly in accordance with House rules. The proceedings resumed a few moments later after the demonstrators were led from the balcony out of the chamber. In the end, the bill passed overwhelmingly, with six Democrats joining all the Republicans in voting for it. It now moves on to the Ohio Senate.